Sunday, 30 January 2011
Downloading - Such a grey area
One thing I must state that the US probably has the worst record for what people download and for what the authoroties do there. In the UK it is only 5 years after the p2p revolution that the government has finally made a statement(see link below).
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9160/IFPI+Wants+ISPs+to+Filter+Content%2C+P2P+Programs%2C+and+Websites
We are told by television and the media dont download, but then the BBC turns round and launches the Iplayer (which is a p2p application). Videos sites like google video and youtube accept videos posted by record companies as a means to generate more income off the back catologues of certain artists.
Working in record shops you realise that the new music is actually provided free by the reps of the record compnaies, the money is made in this sector by the sale of albums. Videos are promotional for the purposes of singles, the singles are promotional onto the albums.
That is where the main problem lies for record companies in the UK much of their income is generated by the back catologue of main artists. So They will be the first to say that dowbnloading is wrong. I find that downlaoding poses questions
is it OK to download something for your own personal use?
Is it OK to download something that has long since been deleted and is not available on LP
Providers giving highbandwidth , retailers selling 250GB-Youd be hard pressed to find that many legal downloads.!
Its like they use to say to record off the radio was wrong, but then if you go out and buy the album thats OK. Confused I sure am.
I think it is ok to download for your personal use and I like the way that using programs like Soulseek you can transfer stuff between one other user. But then on the other hand emule means you upload sometimes more than you can download, which is wrong.
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9160/IFPI+Wants+ISPs+to+Filter+Content%2C+P2P+Programs%2C+and+Websites
We are told by television and the media dont download, but then the BBC turns round and launches the Iplayer (which is a p2p application). Videos sites like google video and youtube accept videos posted by record companies as a means to generate more income off the back catologues of certain artists.
Working in record shops you realise that the new music is actually provided free by the reps of the record compnaies, the money is made in this sector by the sale of albums. Videos are promotional for the purposes of singles, the singles are promotional onto the albums.
That is where the main problem lies for record companies in the UK much of their income is generated by the back catologue of main artists. So They will be the first to say that dowbnloading is wrong. I find that downlaoding poses questions
is it OK to download something for your own personal use?
Is it OK to download something that has long since been deleted and is not available on LP
Providers giving highbandwidth , retailers selling 250GB-Youd be hard pressed to find that many legal downloads.!
Its like they use to say to record off the radio was wrong, but then if you go out and buy the album thats OK. Confused I sure am.
I think it is ok to download for your personal use and I like the way that using programs like Soulseek you can transfer stuff between one other user. But then on the other hand emule means you upload sometimes more than you can download, which is wrong.
50 Top albums....Written in 2008
Was looking through blog sites and noticed Musique and grand designs 1, that was the original web site I did in 2007 -2008. Cant access it now due to lost password....Anyway I wrote this in 2008, not in any particlar order....
1 Prefab Sprout- Steve Mcqueen
2 Cocteau Twins- Garlands & Head Over Heels
3. The Chameleons-What Does anything mean basically
4. This Mortal Coil - It wil end in tears
5. Killing Joke - Nightime
6. Siouxsie and the banshees- nocturne
7. Talk Talk - Colour Spring
8 . Goldfrapp-Black Cherry
9. Roxy Music - Avalon
10. Cure _Kiss Me, Kiss Me , Kiss Me
11 Keane - Hope and Fears
12 Metalica - Master of the puppets
13 Muse - Abosolution & Black Holes and revelations
14 Xymox-Twist of shadows
15 Xmal Deustchland-Vivo
16 delerium-Faces , forms and illsuions
17 Skinny Puppy- Cleanse fold and maniupulate
18 Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the moon
19 Waterboys -Waterboys
20 Tangerine dream-220 Volt Live
21 Tori Amos- Little earthquakes
22 Suede - Dog Man Star
23 James Taylors-greatest Hits
24 Goldfrapp-Supernature
25 Coldplay - X and Y
26 Manic Street Preachers-Genroation terroists
27 Chameloens-Script of the bridge
28 new Order-Lowlife
29 Joy Division -Unknown pleasures
30 U2- October
31 Big Black-songs About fucking
32 David Slyvian - Brilliant Trees
33 . Dead Can Dance -Spleen and ideal
34 The The -Soul Mining
35 Christian Death - The Ashes.
36 Soundgarden - Superunknown
37 Durutti Coulmn -LC
38 Marillion - Fugazi
39 The The - Infected
40 Verve -Urban Hymns
41 Prodigy- fat of the land
42 Stone Roses-Stone roses & second Coming
43 The cure-head on the door
44 this Mortal Coil-Filgree and Shadow
45 Frankie Goes to Hollywood-Welcome to the pleasure dome
46 Cabaret Volatire - Drinking Gasoline
47 Killers-Sams Town
48 Front 242- Back Cataolgue
49 Skinny Puppy- Vivisect
50 New Order-Power Curruption and Lies.
1 Prefab Sprout- Steve Mcqueen
2 Cocteau Twins- Garlands & Head Over Heels
3. The Chameleons-What Does anything mean basically
4. This Mortal Coil - It wil end in tears
5. Killing Joke - Nightime
6. Siouxsie and the banshees- nocturne
7. Talk Talk - Colour Spring
8 . Goldfrapp-Black Cherry
9. Roxy Music - Avalon
10. Cure _Kiss Me, Kiss Me , Kiss Me
11 Keane - Hope and Fears
12 Metalica - Master of the puppets
13 Muse - Abosolution & Black Holes and revelations
14 Xymox-Twist of shadows
15 Xmal Deustchland-Vivo
16 delerium-Faces , forms and illsuions
17 Skinny Puppy- Cleanse fold and maniupulate
18 Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the moon
19 Waterboys -Waterboys
20 Tangerine dream-220 Volt Live
21 Tori Amos- Little earthquakes
22 Suede - Dog Man Star
23 James Taylors-greatest Hits
24 Goldfrapp-Supernature
25 Coldplay - X and Y
26 Manic Street Preachers-Genroation terroists
27 Chameloens-Script of the bridge
28 new Order-Lowlife
29 Joy Division -Unknown pleasures
30 U2- October
31 Big Black-songs About fucking
32 David Slyvian - Brilliant Trees
33 . Dead Can Dance -Spleen and ideal
34 The The -Soul Mining
35 Christian Death - The Ashes.
36 Soundgarden - Superunknown
37 Durutti Coulmn -LC
38 Marillion - Fugazi
39 The The - Infected
40 Verve -Urban Hymns
41 Prodigy- fat of the land
42 Stone Roses-Stone roses & second Coming
43 The cure-head on the door
44 this Mortal Coil-Filgree and Shadow
45 Frankie Goes to Hollywood-Welcome to the pleasure dome
46 Cabaret Volatire - Drinking Gasoline
47 Killers-Sams Town
48 Front 242- Back Cataolgue
49 Skinny Puppy- Vivisect
50 New Order-Power Curruption and Lies.
Cream Chilled out Electronic-various artists
A really good triple album thats out, this must be an official avert for the album. Features some really rare tracks and some old ones to, like the Grids -flotation single from 1990
Sound archives.......

Talking about music and downloading, there are several things I just cant get my head around when it comes down to downloading music is theft and all that stuff. browse through any argos catalogue and you will find about 40-50 devices that have greater than 2 gig of memory. So if you are to download legally then I think you would be hard pressed to find music to fill it up. Unless you download music by unsighned bands who have waved away their copyright.I think over the last 20 years there has definately been a shift into companies who existed to make money from artists(publishers) and also a business model for records that hadnt changed much since the 50s.
The music industry (espceially in the Usa) is struggling to cope with the sheer amount of downloaders. The Riaa is randomly picking people to sue, but this is just a drop into the ocean, so for example them suing 10 people when there are 10 million downloaders. Some artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails are embracing new ways of getting their music across to a wider audience by using downloading of new albums.
The way in which online record shops are taking off and how high street shops are decreasing like HMV shows that even the way we buy records is going to change.
My main things that puzzle me about downloading is.
1) what happens if you download a album by 23 skidoo or some other relitavely unheard of band and say the album was released in the 1980s. The record label that promoted it folded two years after release and it was not picked up by any other record label. So in that case the songwriter would be the main copyright holder. In that instance its unlikely you would be sued as who would pursue you for copyright.
2) When you upload videos you recieve a message saying that the music is owned by Sony music and is taken off youtube. When the music is something on a indiependant label....
3)Some multinational companies advertise on sites like Pirate bay and other downloading sites, when they sell copyrighted music but advertise on downloading sites.
4).There is a demand for products that carry greater storge capabilities(like TB hard drives), wherfe as internet providers monitor downloaders and restrict the speed. So hard drives getting bigger and more storage available but greater risks....hmmnn.
Brian Eno-An ending Ascent
Always assiocated with Trainspotting soundtrack, which is a shame as the song and the album its from are truly brilliant pices of ambient music and no body more so than Brian Eno has put ambient on the map in musical terms
Eno and Cluster -belldog
Brian Eno and members of Cluster. This sounds really cool. Very ambient but also driven by a snyth sound and not sounding unlike Tangerine Dream.
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